Friday, February 24, 2017

Response #2 NIGHT

Explain your own reasoning regarding the strange incident with Madame Schachter.  Was it a hallucination, prophecy, vision, or a diving warning?  Why did Wiesel choose to include this incident in his memoir?  Is this incident somehow linked to his faith?


Through your readings, discussions, etc.., what have you learned so far about the impact of the Holocaust? ...the effect of stereotypes, prejudices, racism? ....the effect of the images on the wall?


(What I am looking for in your response is more than just a basic reflection of sorts, but a DEEPER demonstration of your comprehension of this content. I am looking for impactful and relevant responses to show your unyielding capability of synthesizing information together in providing a well-written response.

7 comments:

  1. I believe that Madame Schachter had a vision. I think because of her being separated from her family that impacted her and caused her to get very emotional. I think that her emotions made her see things deeper and brought out the truth in something she saw was going to happen. She tried to warn everyone, but because of her still being broken down from her family being taken from her, no one believed or saw what she was telling them. This relates to Moshe the Beadle's warning, because no one had saw it & thought he had gone mad, no one me believed him. I think Elie included this experience in his book to show another reason as to how the Jews were blinded. It showed how again, they didn't listen to the warnings of people who could have helped then in the situation that was to come.

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  2. So far I have learned that the holocaust split family's apart and the people who were split it can be driven insane. For instance Madame Schachter who was a mother who was separated from her sons during the holocaust, and the thought of what could happen to them was to much for her which made her insane.
    I also have learned that the western world didn't care about what was happening at the time because they had isolated them selves from the eastern war because of the great depression, and turned a blind eye to Hitler and his dictatorship. America,Cuba and other country's refused to take the 900+ Jewish people from the St.Louis resulting in the start of the final solution. I think that no one wanted to take the Jews because of the stereotype and or racism that was set in place by the world which was stretched to fuel the Nazi regime.
    Lastly I learned that no matter how many warnings the Jews were given from Moishe the Beadle, and the Nazis they still believed everything was okay. Even Madame Schachter was giving a warning as well, because it's possible that the flames that she was seeing were nightmares of things that did happen and her sons were already dead because of the flames and she survived, this experience made her fear flames and have nightmares of fire. Ether way the Jews were given chances to resist and compared to the Nazi's they were like sheep and sheep like many other animals wait for their slaughter. If the Jewish people had taken the warning and didn't accept their fate then the war would have much different, imagine millions of Jewish people rising up agents the Nazi's and destroying everything they built.

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    1. I believe that Madame Schachter had a simple hallucination. Let’s delve into what a hallucination is. A hallucination is a image created by the mind. If we look at what her hallucination was, then things become quite simple. Her hallucination was of fire. Fire is regarded as destruction in most cultures. It is the midst of WWII, and her two older sons and her husband were taken away. The destruction of the world around her, including her family, could've caused some sort of psychological break down similar to patients with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) where they suffer through something and they start to have hallucinations. Eli Wiesel might of chosen to include this because of one or both of these two reasons. He believe God sent to her a vision of what was to come, or because it describes his time in the cattle cars. So it might be linked with his fate, but it might also just be him describing
      describing the trip.

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  4. Being confined in a locomotive for prolonged period of time post trauma will with little to no doubt leave a person insane. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Missus Schachter was simply hallucinating. Young Wiesel was most likely adding the madwoman in to explain how excruciating the ride was, having to listen to her constantly scream about fire or any absent hazard during the moonlight hours, when he needed rest the most - and everyone else on the car, for that matter. However, in an aberrant twist of events, the fire she was screaming about in question was burning outside of the concentration camp. Even without her, the trip would likely be documented in the book as it was a major turning point for the story and gives readers an idea of what it was like. And it was indirectly linked to his fate because that was where he ended up, passing the fire into Auschwitz.

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  5. I think that Madame Schachter had a prophecy. She knew that there would be a fire and she warned the people who were on the train with her but nobody listened because they thought she was crazy. There have many great prophets throughout history and nobody believed them until it was too late. I believe chose to include incident he wanted to show how again after many warnings he,his peers, and his elders still denied what was right in front of them. I feel as if this event is partially connected to Elie's faith. Elie believed that his God would never cause harm to him but when God tried to warn him he wasn't truly listening

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  6. I believe that Madame Schachter seeing a fire was a prophecy or a sign from God. In the old testament of the bible you can see prophecies being fulfilled almost instantly or over time. Madame's constant visions or what they seen as an "Hallucination" came to existence and was seen to be true as they arrived to the camp. So there is a great chance that it could've been a prophecy. I believe Wiesel decided to include Madame's incident in his memoir because it showed yet another warning sign that the Jews denied once again. It also shows the effect the Holocaust had on people and how much destruction it caused physiologically and physically. Sense most prophecies happened in the bible i think that the incident was related to Wiesel's faith because it could have been a sign from God, we'll never really know.

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